>>23970
>The other imageboards I use don't have this culture.
Which ones are you talking about? Most alt-chans I see have 4chan culture, the only one I can think of that doesn't is Otterchan.
>Engaging meaning, living and operating within a society to a degree greater than that of a hermit.
I have done numerous "society engaging" IRL things without using social media or invasive technology. While many old women have continually harassed me about wanting to get me on social media, I stood my ground and said I don't use it. You don't need social media or a cell phone to engage with other humans or to participate in your community, whether it's something like joining a book club, volunteering, buying/trading, etc. Once again, speaking from first hand experience.
It sounds like your gripe isn't that you're not able to engage in society, but rather that some schools and some jobs require invasive devices.
>The problem I have experienced is that basic things like work and school now require the use of websites or services that invade your privacy. For example, schools in my country provide students with ipads or laptops which are mandatory, and filled with spyware on top of the usual spyware, for theft prevention.
>Microsoft has a stranglehold on communication within the education system. Some jobs also require you to carry a cell phone that they issue.
I understand this and I experienced similar while in high school. If you're voluntarily taking classes as a legal adult, I would simply not participate in classes that want to violate my privacy. You still have a choice in this scenario - don't take the class. If you want to learn about a topic, there are plenty of online resources you can access and pay for privately (Monero -> Visa gift card). If you're a minor legally required to be in a class that has invasive iPads, laptops, etc. I would try to communicate with the staff your concerns and set up an alternate way to submit/engage in class. There's a possibility they would be willing to work with you, however, there's also a good chance they are not willing to work with you.
In which case you would need to practice segregation or "compartmentalization". You completely separate the invasive technology to one device and only use it when required. Aside from that, you do not further engage with the device, you don't browse on it, you don't keep it powered on listening to you and monitoring your location, you don't use it strictly outside of school hours. Put it in a faraday bag. If it's software you need to install for a class/job, install it on a separate harddrive and only access that harddrive when required, not using that harddrive for anything else. I do this if I need more advanced editing with Adobe After Effects. It's on a Windows harddrive that's offline and only used for video editing once every few months. If you're required to communicate with other people via phone, set up a VoIP accessed privately and paid for privately. This will not require you to have a smart phone. While the mode of communication is not ideal, at least you are not beholden to a spy device monitoring you via camera, via microphone, and logging everything you search and look up. Overall, don't voluntarily join classes/jobs that require you to install spyware. If you're an adult choosing to further your learning, there are plenty of ways to learn that don't invade privacy, there are plenty of jobs that don't require spy devices - or if they do, you can find workarounds such as VoIP on a non-spy device, or practice compartmentalization. Privacy is not all or nothing, it's not black and white. However, you try your best with what you can.
I sense from you that just because there are some invasive practices being done to you, that you feel the need to throw your hands up and fully engage with the invasive behavior. This is foolish - if you seek privacy then you can use the tools and exercises we have to get as close to private as possible. Some days I like to eat a bag of chips. Yes, they're unhealthy. That doesn't mean I should wreck my entire diet for the rest of my life just because one thing is unhealthy. Do your best when you can, not everything is strictly black and white, all-or-nothing.
>Re: namefag
We're really nitpicking here but I guess we'll beat this dead horse. Post >>23741 is me replying to someone requesting that I make a video about the link in OP. I replied as me saying I will not do that. Seems relevant to identify myself as admin, the person the board is about, as they're requesting I make a video about the OP. >>23743 doesn't need my identification, but after all it is my board focused on me, my ideas, etc. I sometimes post as BO to drum up discussion. I don't abuse BO posting like namefags do. Namefags would be acceptable if the name was applicable to what was being said - however, my gripe with namefags is they identify every single post as themselves when it is not necessary. This causes unnecessary drama and builds cliques and rivalries among posters that wouldn't exist had things remained anonymous. Everyone here already knows me. The board is about me. There's no new bad blood being made when I post as BO as there would be with an unhinged namefag or namefag hater. Almost every post I make is anonymous, with exceptions if it makes sense to identify myself, if it's a topic I frequently address, or if it would be funny.
>However, if US law changes after some new false flag gets blamed on kiwifarms, tor won't save the administration from seizure of assets or imprisonment.
There are countless extremely illegal websites on onions right now that last for years. As long as you obtain your domain, hosting, etc. privately (Monero, don't disclose personal information), use a resilient hosting company, and never identify yourself, who will the feds go for? In cases like this, the best the feds can do is to try and infiltrate the onion's community and work their way up to moderation or get close to the people operating the website to begin figuring out who is operating what. And the lesson here is to never let your guard down with OPSEC. When things are done correctly, even in extremely illegal situations, they can't just "take down an onion because it's illegal". Maybe if you've done things poorly, use a bad hosting company, identify yourself, generally make bad OPSEC choices, have a vulnerable machine, etc. But for people who know what they're doing - good luck. This is why the whole "outlawing privacy" thing is unrealistic for anyone who knows what they're doing. Sure, you can try. Yes, it will stop the uberist of normies who don't have an understanding of the technology and tools. If you do things truly privately, it can be very hard to determine who is doing/saying what. This is why so many pirate websites are in operation for years at a time, or why drug marketplaces usually go down after exit scams, not being busted. There are countless examples of people doing things privately. Unfortunately, it's usually for illegal purposes, because the motivation to be private for these activities is obviously very strong, but these are still useful case studies for the average person who wants to enjoy privacy even though they're doing nothing wrong.
>You don't need to say "no offense", this is an imageboard and I expect to be offended
In my experience these discussions turn hostile just because there's a disagreement. Written text can easily be misconstrued as hostile because you cannot determine tone. This is why me, and I assume the other anon, clarify that we're providing information, not insults that detract from the information.
>Re: moderation
"Low quality shill posts" can be arbitrary based on who is choosing. I prefer to let all discussion take place, even if I disagree or think it's "low quality". If you don't agree with my choice, that's fine. There's plenty of websites that do pick and choose what users get to see and discuss. I would prefer to let all discussion take place and what's worthy of discussion will naturally get a lot of replies. What is unworthy will fall to the bottom of the catalog. I let the users choose, not me. I will point out that if I was operating under your preferences, this thread wouldn't exist and we wouldn't have had the chance to have this conversation.
>but you can't pay rent, host a website or buy groceries with monero yet
It depends on your landlord. Most likely have no idea what Monero is, but at best you may be able to convert your Monero to BTC and pay rent that way. Yes BTC is transparent, but if done correctly (starting out with Monero converted to a clean BTC wallet using a non-KYC method) it's pretty good. BTC is recognizable even among boomers who use it as an asset. I pay my hosting and domain registration in Monero. I also regularly buy gift cards with Monero and use that to buy everyday goods including food. Inb4 while not directly Monero, it is spending Monero for a representation of a value of money (gift cards) for goods I don't need to use a bank account to obtain these goods. A lot of these things are possible if you have the willingness to do so.